inconceivable that the journalists at fox if they had gotten an interview with george w. bush or condoleezza rice, or colin powell would have gone nearly, remotely same zip code as soft as "60 minutes" tid. the new republic had more of an excuse. flagship liberal publication but funny the editor of the new republic, chris hughes, dot-com millionaire. donor that used for obama and says in the letter to readers in same issue with the interview, he says how they will have no partisan bias. they are not going to push a party line, not going to be biased toward a group or party. yet, this thing was basically dictation from the president of the united states. >> bret: mara? >> i think that, you know, chris hughes has to prove that. right out of the gate he did an interview with the president and he is a big donor and employee. it seemed weird. full of conflict. the steve croft interview was interesting when you hear him asking the question, why did you want to do this? almost like a bubble over his head why did i agree to do this? it was kind of tough piece exit interview pat o